I found some awesome new (used) speakers, a bit over my budget, so I am lowering these to a FIRM $500 for a few days, not going to find a better pair of speakers at this price, will be back up by the weekend! I want to upgrade my speakers, I have listened to all my hi-res music so I need to upgrade something for the sound to get "better", lol. These beat speakers at $5000, new for $2000, $650 OBO. My phone camera is scuffed, sorry. There is one small nick on one speaker (my bad from a move), but otherwise speakers are very mint, need to be seen AND heard to understand how well these perform; they really come alive with lots of power, but shine regardless, can be listened to for hours. Read the reviews, arrange a listen! Grills show some wear but are not transparent to sound so they are better left off, but still intact, minor wear along edges, some magnets are loose, easy fix. Please email, Brian